Lost Media: Tapes Too Dark For The Public

Today, I want to look at two pieces of “lost media” with you all. One piece is lost because it was deemed too dark for the public to ever hear, and the other was lost when it was intentionally destroyed by the US government. That’s right, we’re going over the case of Timothy Treadwell aka Grizzly Man, and the Cavalese Tapes. So roll up your sleeves and let’s dive into the darkness together.

TW: Animal Mistreatment

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In October of 2003, a woman named Jewel Palovak went out to check her mail and saw that there was a manila envelope with something crammed inside. The sender was the Alaska State Medical Examiner’s office. It looked like it had been hastily thrown together, like the contents were radioactive and the coroner wanted whatever was inside away from them as quickly as possible. 

Inside, Jewel found a videocassette tape, and on it was an audio-only recording that was only 6 minutes long. And when she saw that, her heart sank because Jewel knew exactly what was on the tape and that under no circumstances should she listen to it. 

What the videocassette had captured was the sound of her closest friend Timothy Treadwell and his girlfriend Aime Huguenard being mauled to death by a bear in the Katmai National Park of Alaska. Just before their deaths one of the two of them hit record on the video camera. The lens cap remained on, but the audio was recorded

Now, because Jewel promised herself that she would never listen to this tape and never share it with anyone it’s become Lost Media. But over the years investigators have been able to piece together what happened leading up to the recording, and some of the very few people who have ever listened to the tape have come forward to describe it. So the first story I want to tell you about today is the story of the Grizzly Man. 

Welcome back to another episode of Heart Starts Pounding, as always, I’m your host, Kaelyn Moore

I want to get right back to today's episode- this is probably our darkest episode of lost media yet, but first, I wanted to give a quick shout out to all of the new listeners who may have found us over the holidays. I’m so happy to have you here in the rogue detecting society headquarters with me while I guide you through these dark tales. 


I also wanted to update you all that if you’re interested in joiningour book club, we are reading Riley Sagers “The only one left” and we will be discussing over on patreon later in february. You can join patreon on the FREE TIER to participate, this one is for everyone, so come on over and join us. Also HUGE shout out to members like Madison, morgan and Jenene who truly finished the book in like three days, i could’t believe how fast you guys read that, but I think it’s a testament to how good this book is!

Alright, Let’s get back to it, to the story of the tape that is too dark for the public to hear. 

This story starts in Long Island in the late 70’s. There, a young man named Timothy Dexter had visions of himself up on the silver screen starring in Hollywood movies. 

Timothy was described by his parents as being an ordinary child, he loved animals and was a star on the swimming and diving team. But something in him changed when he went to college. 

While he was attending Bradley University on a swimming and diving scholarship, he started making up stories about his life. Instead of telling people that he was raised by two parents in Long island, he started saying he was a British Orphan.

This continued after school as well. Timothy moved to  Los Angeles after college to pursue acting. But months and months into his life in LA, Timothy wasn’t getting many auditions. There, the lies continued, maybe as a way to make his life seem more interesting to casting directors. He changed his last name to Treadwell and would tell people he was an orphan, Making up different ways that his parents had died. He even went as far as putting on a fake Australian accent and saying he was raised in the Outback.

But it wasn’t helping. At one point, he almost booked a role on the sitcom Cheers, but lost to an up and coming actor named Woody Harrelson.

And it was in this moment that Timothy’s life took a dark turn. He started drinking a lot and his moods became unpredictable. Days of dropping off headshots around town turned into days of drinking alone at bars. Eventually, The alcoholism turned into drug addiction. It took surviving a near-fatal heroin overdose to wake Timothy up. He realized he didn’t want to die.

Now, we don’t have a ton of details on this next part, but according to Timothy, when he was at this low he had an encounter with a grizzly bear, and that made him realize his true purpose in life. He felt like These bears needed a savior, a protector. They needed Timothy, but for him to play this role he would need to get and stay sober.

And so he honed in on the bears of Katmai National Park in Alaska as the ones who needed his help the most, he felt like these bears were at the highest risk of being poached. He’d go on long rants about how poachers had run amok in the park for decades, hunting bears for trophies and for their gallbladders, which they’d sell on Asian black markets.

So, every summer starting in the late 80’s he would fly to Anchorage, Alaska and he would live amongst the bears with just some camping equipment and his camera. He gave the bears names and personalities. He’d get shockingly close to them and film himself petting them. And he felt like he was really starting to develop special relationships with some of the bears. He filmed himself talking about chasing off poachers, even ones that threatened him with guns

But one thing he never got on camera, was any actual footage of him facing off against a poacher. No, his camera was never on for those interactions. And that brings me to a problem with Timothy's plan. The bears in Katmai National park are not really at risk of being poached. Katmai is a national park, and national parks have extra layers of protection against poachers. Poaching there would be a federal offense and would carry much larger consequences. And Many conservationists, animal advocates, and the native Alutiiq (aloo-tick) people of the area argued that the bears were perfectly fine without him.

High country News reported “Poaching… has never been much of an issue in Alaska, where grizzlies may be hunted legally, and the area in which he spent most of his time is already protected from development because it’s in a national park.” 

But that didn’t deter Timothy, he never listened when Park Rangers explained to him that in their careers working in the park, they had never seen more than a few isolated incidents of poached bears. Or when members of the Alutiiq tribe talked about how they had lived amongst the bears for generations, but they knew it had to be at arms length because Grizzlys were unpredictable, harsh, and unforgiving at times. 

And Timothy started becoming somewhat famous for his trips. In the early 2000s he made an appearance on Late Night with David Letterman where Letterman asked him an ominous and foreboding question. “is it gonna to happen that one day we read a news article about you being eaten by one of these bears?” 

He asked it with a joking tone and a laugh, but Timothy took the question very seriously. He responded with a firm “no.” He didn’t think there was any world in which the bears would kill and eat him, let alone hurt him. He had developed a relationship of mutual respect with the creatures, they knew he was their protector and they wouldn’t do anything to jeopardize that.  

That brings me to the end of the 2003 summer season that Timothy spent with the bears.

From Timothy's first summer camping in Katmai, he and the park rangers did not get along. Timothy was angered by a lot of the National Park Service’s safety guidelines because he saw them as a tool to stop his efforts to protect the bears. Some of the precautions he chose to ignore were: carrying a defense weapon on him including a gun or bear spray, putting up an electrical fence around his camp, keeping a distance of at least 50 yards from the bears.

In order to keep the peace with the rangers though, there were some restrictions he eventually started to follow. Campers were required to move the location of their camp at least 1 mile every 7 days, which Timothy did. Unfortunately, most of his campsite locations were far from safe. He would set up his tent much closer to the bears than any wildlife ranger would recommend. 

And this summer, he wasn’t alone. With him was Amie Huguenard, his girlfriend who had joined him on these trips for the last few seasons. Amie was a physicians assistant, and from what we can gather, pretty afraid of bears. It seems like she didn’t love the trips timothy took, but she’d go down with him during the seasons. She only appears two times in the over 100 hours of footage he gathered though. 

When Aime first started joining Timothy on his summers amongst the bears, he displayed a level of reverence and deference towards the animals. He would make sure not to keep his back turned to them. He wouldn’t really touch them or spend too much time right up next to them. But in recent summers, he became a lot more lax with his personal rules for being in contact with the bears. He would spend longer and longer sitting with them, petting them, interacting with them during feedings.

This particular season, Amie was eager to leave. The two of them were supposed to have left weeks earlier. 

On September 26th, the summer season was over and Amie was sitting in an uncomfortable airport chair—though I’m sure it was more comfortable than anything she had been used to the last three months. The summer season was over and she was ready to catch a flight home. 

When all of a sudden Timothy came over to her. They weren’t going home today, he said. Something about the flight being more expensive than he thought it would be. Also, He hadn’t gotten to say goodbye to one of his favorite bears, Downey, and now he could. 

And so, The couple headed back into the park, this time to a place called KAfia Bay, an area Timothy referred to as the Grizzly Maze. 

The Grizzly Maze was probably one of the most dangerous places they could have been camping at the time. The area was defined by its thick brush and lack of open spaces. Visibility was minimal for both humans and animals. This left them vulnerable to accidentally scaring a bear that didn’t see them. A scare like that could, and would, have deadly consequences. The area was also remote. There wasn’t a single other soul around.

And it gets even more dangerous. The exact spot where he put their camp was at the intersection of several bear trails. Trails that led to the lake the bears would use to fatten up before the winter. He quite literally put them between the bears and their food source right as they were most desperate for food.

Now with all this working against their safety, you’d imagine they would have set up safety precautions, but other than keeping most of their food in bear resistant food containers (or BRFCs), there wasn’t much done.. No electric fence, no defensive measures, nothing.Amie begged Timothy to move, but he refused to leave. This was exactly where he needed to be, he told her. 

It was October 6th when the pilot Timothy had arranged flew over their pick up spot.. Looking down, he couldn’t see any sign of Timothy or Aime on the shore.. 

He landed and called out toward the thick forest of brush, but there was no response.  

Now, he would have gone to search for them, but He knew this area wasn’t a safe place to be this time of year. So, he got back in his plane and started circling, hoping he’d see the couple. But instead, what he saw were a few bears gathered around a food source. And even from the air,  he could tell that what they were circling was human.

By 2pm on October 6th, investigators had arrived at Timothy and Amie’s campsite and saw that it had been fully torn apart. Their gear and tent were decimated and flung in every direction. It would later be confirmed that the attack occurred at 1:53pm AKDT (Alaska Daylight Time) on October 5th. 

One of the first on the scene was Trooper Alan Jones. As he was surveying the campsite, he noticed something chilling. One of Timothy’s camcorders was set up like it had been recording. There was a tape in the camcorder, but the lens cap was on so it wasn’t likely there was any video of the attack. Investigators figured they would pop it into a videocassette player just in case. They had no idea how disturbing this would be. 

The assumption that no video had been captured was correct. What had been recorded though was 6 minutes and 21 seconds of the sounds of unimaginable horror as Timothy and Aime were attacked and eaten alive by the bears.

This is the tape that made it’ way to Jewel Palovak. Even though Jewel has never listened to the tape, it has been listened to by a few people, including filmmaker Werner Herzog while he was filming his documentary about Timothy called Grizzly Man.

There’s a very upsetting scene in the doc that shows Werner with headphones on listening to the audio as Jewel watches. Even without hearing a thing, Jewel bursts into tears at the thought of what’s on that tape. When Werner’s done listening, he tells Jewel: “You must never listen to this. And you must never look at the photos I have seen at the coroner’s office. I think you should not keep it. You should destroy it. I think that's what you should do because it will be the white elephant in your room all your life.”

Other people confirmed to have heard this tape before it got to Jewel were Troopers Alan Jones and Chris Hill who were first on the scene; Sergeant Maurice Hughes Jr.; medical examiner Franc G. Fallico; wildlife biologist Larry Van Daele; and Kevin “The Bearman” Sanders from Yellowstone Outdoor Adventures claims that he has also heard the tape. 

And based on their retellings The following summary can be made.

There’s no way to confirm who hit record on the camera, but Aime would make the most sense. The attack on Timothy had already begun by the time the camera started recording. She might have hit record out of reflex or maybe Timothy had yelled at her to turn it on. We can’t know for sure.

But the tape starts with the sounds of heavy rain hitting the tent. The first voice we hear is Aime asking if it’s still out there. Next is Timothy’s voice. His voice was captured even through the rain because he had been wearing his remote microphone clipped to his clothes. He can be heard  screaming to Aime: “Get out there! I’m getting killed out here!” The tent’s zipper is pulled open. Aime is screaming now too over the sounds of the rain and wind. Timothy then yells at her to play dead. A few seconds pass before he yells at her again to play dead. Aime’s screaming seems to ward the bear off. Aime and Timothy have a clipped conversation about whether or not they think the bear is really gone.

Aime then makes her way over to Timothy but backs off once the bear returns. Timothy can be heard screaming that playing dead isn’t working. He begs her to hit the bear with something. The sound is muffled by wind and rain on the tent, but Aime can be heard yelling at Timothy to fight back. She then yells “Stop! Go away” or it might be “run away.” Next comes the sound of a flying pan hitting the bear on the head and its believed Amie is the one striking it.

At one point Timothy screams at her “Amie get away. Get away. Go away.” to try and save her, but Amie stays. 

There’s the sound of dragging, and then the sound of Amie screaming. Wildlife biologist Larry Van Daele describes the scream as “the sound of a predator call used by hunters to produce the distress cries of a small wounded animal which often attracts bears.” He thinks this may have only attracted the bear to come back and kill her.

The tape on the cassette runs out and the recording ends. It’s believed that Aime was still alive when the tape stopped but the bear returned for her shortly afterwards. 

Now, I’ve talked about this clip before on tik tok and was immediately flooded with comments saying, I’ve heard the tape, it’s out there. You may have seen a clip going around YouTube that claims to be the original audio of the attack. The clip is only 2 minutes long—it alleges to be the first 2 minutes of the entire 6 minute recording). You may have even listened to that sound clip. I’m here to tell you that What you heard was not the real tape. I promise. It wasn’t. Really.


People who have heard the actual recording have confirmed the youtube video is not it. Anything you hear with bears loudly roaring isn’t the actual recording. Contrary to what you’ve seen in the movies, bears are actually incredibly quiet when they attack. 


The tape lives on a shelf in Jewel’s home. In the possession of Timothy’s dear friend. Someone who understood him on a level deeper than the general public could and loved him for it, and who knows that the world has been given this one, very specific version of her friend, a version that became famous in his death. So I understand why the tape will never be released. The internet is also an insatiable beast, and I don’t know that any good would come from anyone listening to it. 


Timothy set up a foundation called Grizzly People to aid in educating about Grizzly bear conservation. A foundation that was run by Jewel after his death.


Now, for our next piece of Lost Media, I want to tell you about a video recording that no one will ever be able to see. 

Like I’ve mentioned before, sometimes media becomes lost accidentally. Sometimes it’s withheld because it’s too dark for the public. But sometimes, it’s intentionally destroyed because someone doesn’t want any record of it

We’ve spoken before about times that big corporations or networks erased unsavory footage but for the most part, it’s harmless. 

But not this time. In this case, someone recorded a horrible accident on video, footage that was so bad, the US government decided to destroy it. This is the story of the Cavalese tape.

Cavalese was a small ski resort town in the Italian Alps, nestled in the Dolomite Mountains about 20 miles northeast of Trento.

Cavalese wasn't the most luxurious ski destination in Italy—it wasn't bougie or exclusive. it was family-friendly, pleasant, a place where locals could afford to ski and tourists could come for a nice vacation without breaking the bank. The town's economy relied on that resort. It was the heartbeat of the community.

It's just after 3 PM on February 3rd, 1998. The ski resort is busy. It's a Tuesday afternoon, and the slopes are full of skiers from all over Europe. Some are on vacation, trying out this resort for the first time. Others would have been yearly pass holders, locals who've skied these mountains their whole lives.

That afternoon, Twenty people pile into one of the yellow cable cars.—seven Germans, five Belgians, three Italians, two Poles, two Austrians, and one person from the Netherlands Nineteen skiers and one cable car operator. The gondola begins the beautiful ascent up the mountain, The sun is out, reflecting off the pristine white snow that blankets the Dolomites. The air is crisp and cold in that way that makes your cheeks flush but feels refreshing after a few runs down the slopes.

The ride up is peaceful. Quiet except for the hum of the cable pulling them higher and higher up the mountain. 

But then, someone hears it. 

At first, the sound was distant. Just the rumble of an engine somewhere in the valley. But it gets louder. Faster.

Someone looks out the window, maybe trying to figure out where the sound is coming from. And that's when they see it. An aircraft. Low. Way too low. It's not just flying over the mountains—it's flying through the valley, screaming toward them at an impossible speed.

There's no time to process what's happening. No time to even fully register the fear. The plane is massive, dark against the bright sky, and it's coming right at them. 

It happens so quickly that most people inside of the gondola probably don’t even process it. The right wing of the plane strikes the cable from underneath, causing it to detach and plummet 260 feet, crashing into the face of the mountain. It’s like falling from the 20th story of a building. 

Even days after the disaster, the scene was haunting. Against the white snow, smashed pieces of the yellow cable car were roped off with orange and white police tape, guarded by carabinieri—Italy's paramilitary police force. To one side, rescue workers had piled the broken skis of the 19 skiers killed. Pieces of hats and gloves could be seen scattered in the snow.

The severed cable still drooped in the air, suspended by branches of pine trees like some grotesque reminder of what had happened.

The town was devastated. During a special mass held for the victims, the parish priest, Reverend Lorenzo Caserotti, voiced what a lot of people were feeling: "The skies are for everyone, not only for the powerful and arrogant who believe themselves to be the masters of the lives of others."

See, it seemed to only be a matter of time before an accident like this had happened. Locals had been complaining of low flying planes for a while now. 

But these were not commercial italian planes, they weren’t personal planes flown by locals. No, these were US Military planes

Let me tell you about the aircraft first, because it matters.

The Grumman EA-6B Prowler was a twin-engine, four-seat electronic warfare plane that had been in service with the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps since 1971. It was primarily used for jamming enemy radar systems. In its 48 years of service, not a single one was ever lost in combat. It was reliable. It was effective.

It was also loud, slow, and ugly. Some people called it the "Sky Pig." One description I found said it "resembled a flying chicken leg." But it got the job done.

On February 3rd, 1998, one of these Prowlers took off from Aviano Air Base in northeastern Italy for what was supposed to be a routine low-altitude training mission. On board were four Marines: the pilot, Captain Richard Ashby, 31 years old. Captain Joseph Schweitzer, 30, the navigator. And two electronic countermeasures officers—William Raney, 26, and Chandler Seagraves, 28, who had joined the crew at the last minute.

That morning, the plane had already flown one mission to Bosnia. When it returned around 12:20 PM, the morning pilot reported a fault in the radar altimeter—the instrument that tells you how high you're flying above the ground. The instrument was changed out. It seemed to be working fine.



Now, The Italian government had recently issued new directives on low-altitude flights in the region, forbidding flights below 2,000 feet. Copies of this directive had been given to all the pilots at Aviano.

After the accident, investigators would find one of those copies in the EA-6B. It had never been read.

They also found maps in the flight deck that clearly marked the location of the aerial tramway cables. No one had opened them.

And if you remember, the cable car was sitting at around 260 feet when it was struck by the plane at 541 miles per hour. Way too fast for a low-altitude training flight.

Captain Ashby would later claim he thought they were at 1,000 feet—already below regulations. 

After the accident, The Prowler sustained wing and tail damage, but it was able to limp back to Aviano Air Base, about 90 miles away. All four Marines on board survived without injury while 20 people at the resort fell to their deaths and were trapped beneath the cable car wreckage. 

Now—locals said they'd been seeing U.S. military planes flying unusually low for a while. It felt like these planes were taking joyrides in the beautiful dolomites, putting all of their lives at risk for a pretty view. 

The disaster was named the Strage del Cermis—the Massacre of Cermis. Anti-American sentiment surged so strongly that President Bill Clinton had to issue an official apology.

And in the middle of all this grief and anger, people wanted answers. They wanted to know exactly what had happened in that cockpit. What were those pilots doing? Were they following regulations? Were they taking this seriously?

There was a way to find out. Because there had been a video camera in the cockpit, recording the flight.

But by the time investigators asked to see that tape, it was already gone.

Let me tell you what we know about this tape.

The video camera in the Prowler's cockpit was there to capture scenery—just a way for pilots to record their flights, probably as a keepsake or for review later. And according to Captain Schweitzer, the tape from February 3rd contained footage of him smiling during part of the flight, before the accident occurred.

When the Prowler landed back at Aviano Air Base after severing the cable, the pilot, Captain Ashby gave the tape to Captain Schweitzer, the navigator.

Schweitzer knew that this was bad. They were flying way too fast, and WAY too low. They were barely 1/10th of the altitude of the regulations. And on top of that, there was tape of him in the cockpit smiling as the plane hit the innocent bystanders. So, he built a big bonfire that night, and threw the tape in, destroying it. 

All four crew members were initially charged with negligent homicide and dereliction of duty. If convicted, they faced punishment ranging from reduction in rank to dishonorable discharge and several years in prison.

Italian prosecutors wanted the Marines to stand trial in Italy. But an Italian court recognized that NATO treaties gave jurisdiction to U.S. military courts. The trials would be held in America.

In March 1999, Captain Richard Ashby went to trial at the Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune in North Carolina, charged with twenty counts of involuntary manslaughter.

During the trial, it was determined that the maps on board the Prowler didn't show the cables—even though we know maps that did show them were in the cockpit, unopened. It was determined that the EA-6B had been flying considerably lower and faster than allowed by military regulations. The restrictions required a minimum flying height of 2,000 feet. Ashby claimed he thought they were at 1,000 feet, which, is still too low but they were even lower than that.

Ashby also claimed that his altimeter had been malfunctioning and that he'd been unaware of the speed restrictions.

When the verdict came, Captain Ashby stood at attention as the president of the jury, made up of other Marines,  Colonel William T. Snow, said: "This court finds you, of all the charges and specifications, not guilty." 

The courtroom scene after this was a mess. Ashby's sister, seated with about 30 other spectators in the courtroom, let out a loud whoop.

Which caused One of the prosecutors turned to relatives of German victims seated behind him and say, "I'm sorry."

for the families, this was devastating. Sindy Renkewitz, whose father and sister were on the cable car, along with her sister's fiancé, said she'd worried the Marine Corps jury wouldn't convict one of their own. "There's a saying in Germany," she said. "It says, one crow doesn't pick out the eye of the other one."

Rita Wunderlich, who lost her husband in the crash, said through a translator: "I buried my husband a year ago. Today it was his second funeral."

And about the whoop from Ashby's sister after the verdict, Wunderlich said if her own daughter had done something that caused 20 deaths, she didn't know if she could even enter the courtroom. "I don't know if she were declared innocent, if I could have screamed out of joy."

But saddest of all, some of the victims family members believed this would have played out differently if the tape still existed. Would it show what really happened that day? A group of young marines joyriding, smiling through the dolomites, too low and too fast. Maybe it showed the exact moment they realized they were going to crash and what was said afterwards. Did they come up with a plan to destroy the tape together?

But the tape no longer existed, so justice would never be served. 

Well, actually the story wasn't over. There was still a chance for some justice, and it was BECAUSE the tape was destroyed

In a second court-martial, both Ashby and Schweitzer were charged with obstruction of justice and conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman. The prosecution argued that the crew had destroyed the tape specifically to obstruct the investigation—that there must have been something incriminating on it, something they didn't want anyone to see.

This time, both were found guilty. Ashby was sentenced to six months in prison, dismissal from the Marines, and the surrendering of all military pay and allowances. Schweitzer entered a plea agreement—he faced no prison time but was also dismissed from the Marines.

An appeal by both pilots against their dismissals was rejected in November 2007.

Years later In July 2011, an Italian newspaper called La Stampa was investigating the tragedy. They wanted to see if there was anything that could be learned from the legal proceedings and the not guilty verdict. They legally obtained a classified U.S. Marine Corps document from the archives. This document had been written just one month after the accident, and it contained a bombshell. 

It recognized the Marines' full responsibility for what happened. And it was an internal document. 

"The cause of this tragedy was that the Marine aircrew flew much lower than they were authorized to fly, putting themselves and others at risk," the document read. It recommended that "appropriate disciplinary and administrative action be taken against the mishap aircrew" and also against their commanding officers for their failure to properly communicate flight restrictions.

The document recommended the United States pay legal reparations for deaths and damages. It also revealed that In May 1999, the U.S. Congress had rejected a bill that would have set up a $40 million compensation fund for the families. 

Instead, in December 1999, the Italian Parliament approved compensation of $1.9 million per victim. It was the country paying for the US’s mistake, essentially. Though NATO treaties obliged the U.S. government to refund 75% of that amount.

But none of that brings back the 20 people who died. And none of that changes the fact that we'll never know what was really on that tape.

Today we’ve covered two different kinds of lost media, but two that were intentionally withheld from the public for different reasons. 

With the Timothy Treadwell tape, I’m not sure that we can learn anything from it. It serves more to satisfy the dark curiosity of the listener rather than help solve anything. All of the people who need to listen to it have, and so it may sit on a shelf in Timothy’s friends house for the rest of eternity, or it could already be destroyed, we don’t know.

But the Cavalese tape could help bring closure to those families, and could have changed the outcome of the trial. 

I am curious to hear from you all though, do you think that you could bear witness to either of these tapes?

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